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Tuesday 5 June 2012

Dear American Observers


(Image taken from the Telegraph)

It has been some time since I last posted, I have been busy studying for my final exams of University and other assorted worries so my posting has been severely limited. That said I have been keeping up with blogs that I follow as well as looking further afield in the political and Catholic blogosphere and I have noticed something.

American bloggers are not only fascinated about the crisis in Europe, but are worried about it, and about how it will affect them, and even persons such as Bill Whittle from Pyjamas Media, (a New Media right wing news outlet), have been using the crisis in Europe as an allegory for how not to run a Union. Needless to say my reactions to these concerns from American observers have varied from incredulous to symnpathetic, so I felt the need to devote a post addressing some of the concerns Americans have with the crisis in Europe.


1, You cannot help us
While ordinary Americans are not guilty of it, they are unaware of the LUDICROUS political influence their government has had in Europe for most of the last century, the current political landscape in Europe is as much the result of American meddling as it is a reaction to it, (as well as giving account for European stupidity of course), we do not need American help. You wouldn't know how to help us anyway, we are not American, and cannot exist on an American mindset, however it is defined.


2, If the Euro is going down the drain, the Dollar is on fire
This is addressing primarily economic concerns of American observers. Yes, if the European markets crash it will be a disaster for the whole world, you are right to be concerned about that. Yes, Europe's fiscal irresponsibility is ultimately the cause of our economic downfall, the same as everywhere else. Yes the monetary Union and perhaps the entire European political experiment will fail before Christmas, and yes you can learn from Europe how NOT to run a multi-national Union. This is of no use because however boned the Euro is, the Dollar is worse off. The euro may die and the dollar may live for another few decades but it will never be worth what it once was and it will only continue to decrease in value, I draw my American readers' attention to their own deficit which has literally reached astronomical proportions. It will never get better, never. To believe it will get better is going beyond optimism or religious belief and straight into white knuckled, despair-fuelled denial.


3, If there is another continental war in Europe, American wont be able to intervene
Now we get into the meat of the worry for Americans. Many of whom are worried that if there is another conflagration in Europe in the wake of this crisis, and that is not an unlikely occurance when all is taken into account, Americans may once again be forced to intervene. This is an understandable and human worry but I am going to have to tell my American readers why they wont be able to intervene, the reasons are several-fold
- You won't know who to fight. If another war occurs it will definitely not be like WWI or WWII, it will not be a fluid battle between nations who are easily divided into two alliance blocs. A continental war in Europe at this stage will likely be a furious confusion of border skirmishes, civil unrest and various civil wars in places with no clear clue of who started what fight or which side being victorious would be in America's interests.
- You won't be able to fight a whole continent. With all due respect to America's phenomenal military might and force projection, you simply would not be able to go for broke and simply pacify the entire continent. Oh sure, you most definitely could do this if you were fighting the European Union as a unified entity, but that wouldn't be the case, you wouldn't be fighting the European Union, you'd be fighting Europe which is a different beast, in such a scenario as this, it would be as simple as driving a M1 Abrams tank through a thick, Jungle under-bush. It would be impractical in the extreme, not only would conquered territories not be willing to co-operate with you troops, but as soon as you find out intelligence about say, a French fortified position, it would not count for the sudden German incursion force which would totally blind-side your forces.
- You'll have your own problems to worry about. Putting Europe aside, America wouldn't intervene because in the wake of a European collapse would likely be an entire worldwide collapse. I would be very surprised in such a scenario that America would still be able to field and fortify its military positions all over the world. Indeed, it'd probably be forced to withdraw its worldwide forces not only because it would be nigh impossible to hold them where they are stationed, but because the disaster will likely result in civil unrest if not outright civil war in America itself.



All things considered, while the concern of our American friends is heartening, it is impractical and probably not in their best interests to be concerned. Europe's socio-political experiment will fail, and probably fail spectacularly, but America and Americans cannot do anything to help the situation.

11 comments:

  1. I didn't realise so many Americans were worried. Well, if there's nothing we can do about it then there's definitely nothing America will be able to do about it.

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  2. Not all Americans are as concerned as they seem but at the moment events in Europe are a convenient scapegoat for American problems. President Obama (peace be upon him) promised to solve our economic woes. Alot of people stupidly believed him and now that he has not, one of the main tactics to defect blame from the President is to point to Europe. Many on the right of the political field, particularly the Libertarians, would like to have nothing whatever to do with Europe and focus on the $15 trillion debt in the USA. As Mark Steyn has been saying, not only is America broke, America is the brokest nation in history.

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  3. I am an American and honestly I would say that 15% of Americans care about Europe. and we wouldn't get involved in a european war and if we did we would help italy, the uk, germany or france the population would allow nothing else but on the real you guys are pretty much on your own we have the middle east and africa to deal with.

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    1. Africa? What the hell is America's interest there? If you're referring to Libya, Europe is knee deep there too.

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  4. I predict the end of the west in the coming 20 years. It is inevitable. What really counts is if, and how we rebuild. If for example, France comes back in 2050. And celebrates its culture and heritage, whilst ditching division and multiculturalism, then it will be reborn. If it simply returns with the same old policies then it is doomed to repeat its mistakes. These are interesting times gentlemen, keep your eyes on the headlines!

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    1. I'd tend to agree. Your comments bring to mind Guillaume Faye's thoughts on our present 'convergence of catastrophes'. By no means am I an uncritical fan of Faye's perspective (I'm more partial to Pierre Krebs), but he's an important voice. And I can see no prospect for France unless more Frenchmen of his ilk - or his better, preferably - coming to the fore.

      For those unfamiliar with Faye's writings, you can read an interview with the man here: http://www.counter-currents.com/2010/10/interview-with-guillaume-faye/#more-5129

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  5. I believe i have found a prophecy about the Great Monarch to come in the, Lady of All Nations, 6th MESSAGE January 3, 1946 read more >> http://j.mp/MGbi2W

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    1. It may not necessarily be the Great Monarch but it could be. One way of looking at it is a restoration of the French Bourbon Dynasty.

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  6. One American's response.

    One: I think that most Americans are pretty well aware of the ludicrous amount of interference we have had throughout Europe. We (that is to say, the overwhelming majority of "us") just don't see it as a problem and we honestly believe it is our destiny to "help" everyone else. There is a diseased religion over here called "American Exceptionalism" that plagues most of us, where we forget that just about everything good about our country's foundation was inherited from our European ancestors. It goes well beyond simple national pride. It is even prevalent among the majority of us who advocate stopping our interference in European affairs.

    Two: I can't argue with your points on this one. We seem to be in a race to see which currency will collapse first.

    Three: As I agree with you that both currencies are doomed to collapse, and that the collapse of one will merely accelerate the collapse of the other resulting in the both occurring close together, I expect that the American military will be too busy dealing with the riots at home to do much in Europe. That doesn't mean that our "leaders" won't try. Remember my first point. Yes, the arrogance of most of us is truly at that level.

    Unfortunately, most Americans are painfully unaware of how fragile the economy is in the USA. I don't just mean the national economy, but the state and local economies as well. The foolishly centralized nature of our production and agriculture will leave almost all big cities in very desperate situations. There will be wide-spread riots all over our land. In the time we call our "Great Depression," even the poorest of the poor had a solid moral and a fair philosophical grounding. That is not the case in our current hedonistic, "I 'deserve' whatever it is that I want," society. It will be bad, very bad, over here, so our military will be kept busy as martial law is imposed on the masses.

    Take care!

    An American Monarchist and Distributist.

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  7. Rewind your clock about 83 years and draw some comparisons from that time frame. History is doomed to repeat itself, which in this case is a good thing. People thought the western world was coming to an end then as well.
    The US can't win either way when it comes to foreign aid and intervention. I suggest an in-depth study of the situation in Bosnia, when the US decided to leave it up to Europe to deal with the horrific atrocities that were occurring there. Europe did nothing and the ethnic cleansing and genocide ensued until finally domestic pressure forced the US to get involved. They are damned if we do and damned it they don't.
    Also I ask you to look at how long the US has influenced European policy and even how long the country has been a world power. Compared to other European countries, who played a larger role in shaping the world and even the present countries we have today, it's miniscule.
    Americans are worried most about what's going on in their own backyards, and the only part about Europe that worries them is how the economic decline will affect the quality of their life.
    While there is talk of America's decline, they are not on the verge of collapse. America has been through harder economic times before and has come out with a decent showing. While they may not be the best or the most ideal of countries, it is far from the worst. I have lived both there and in Canada and traveled extensively in Europe so I do have some perspective on the matter, should that be called into question.

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    1. This blog post was not casting any dispersion upon the quality of America itself as a country nor the people. But if you want to, sure, lets compare it to the Bosnian conflict and extend it throughout the entire continent. My point was if America did try to do something about it, it really couldnt succeed in any appreciably degree both for A)the sheer complexity of trying to sort out a continent literally at war with itself, for the reasons I posted above and B) as you rightly pointed out, such a calamity would be a total economic collapse in Europe which would have a major effect on America, if you still desired to help fix Europe (for, admittedly, a reason I can't fathom as I actively think you SHOULD worry about yourselves) you functionally wouldn't be able to help as well. Fortuneately there are signs that Germany and some of the eastern European countries would maintain an appreciably degree of stability if doomsday comes, and by that point nobody in Europe would give two shits about niceties and would actively try to force stability on, say, a self destructive France.

      Greece however...

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